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Deborah Calhoun's avatar

Thank you, Lisa for this thoughtful post. It is heartbreaking but so spot on.

Lisa Gonzalez's avatar

Thank you, Deborah. It means more than you know that this resonates with you. Yes, it is heartbreaking, but saying the truth out loud and refusing to be silent in the face of tyranny makes a difference. And I believe women can save us — most of these atrocities are not being done under the leadership or decisions of women.

Cassandra Cares Too Much💗🇨🇦's avatar

I am a 55 year old Canadian woman who has always been fascinated with History.

There is such a vast amount of lies over decades…

It’s staggering.

It’s hard to imagine..

And it is True.

Btw- Columbus?

Rapist and pillager

Lisa Gonzalez's avatar

Yes, he certainly was.

Saralyn Fosnight's avatar

We can take comfort in the fact that Columbus died of syphilis! I do!

Lisa Gonzalez's avatar

I do as well!

Cassandra Cares Too Much💗🇨🇦's avatar

Me too 😉🙌💯

Cassandra Cares Too Much💗🇨🇦's avatar

I was a Nurse.

I worked in Community Hone Care with Our Beloved Elders

Of All Cultures. 💗

Any human who tried to tell me that the Holocaust did not happen

Would be ending that chat

Right bloody quick.

How DARE THEY?!

LIARS.

Lisa Gonzalez's avatar

It is offensive, but that is at the heart of the moral rot in our society — the dehumanization and denial of other people’s pain. And what feels even more obscene is to recognize how the ultimately oppressed are becoming the ultimate oppressor in this zero-sum game.

Cassandra Cares Too Much💗🇨🇦's avatar

The Jews were not the only targets.

Anyone

Who

Was

Different

was sent to those awful hells that ended up in ash.

Quick fact-

Remember the dwarves in the wizard of Oz?…

They had to come from the USA 🇺🇸

As the Nazis and their accomplices

Murdered all the ones in Europe that they could find.

Lisa Gonzalez's avatar

Yes, absolutely. It most definitely was not only Jewish people — it was many other people for different reasons. But the majority of those killed were Jewish, so it’s heartbreaking to think Israel has the capacity to justify what they are doing.

Cassandra Cares Too Much💗🇨🇦's avatar

Exactly my thoughts too 😔💔🤯

Cassandra Cares Too Much💗🇨🇦's avatar

I am devastated to hear that news about the ones under 50

And how they still believe

The utter lies.

Absolutely appalling, offensive, historically INACCURATE!

And damaging.

We Truthtellers clearly need to step up and continue to try and educate the ones who are unsure…

Holy shit. 🤯😔🙂‍↔️🇨🇦

Lisa Gonzalez's avatar

Agreed, Cassandra. It is devastating — and it’s good that we all feel devastated by hearing this, and by every atrocity that occurs. Because that means we have not lost our humanity.

Julie's avatar

This article is spot on. I was not the greatest of students, but apparently i was a much better student than my grades said i was. There is much written about the holocaust. There is also documentaries, old original footage from WWII and movies. Schindlers List comes to mind.

Old men of our world, mostly white some of other ethnicities, are trying to take us backwards.

Women and children are second class citizens

Younger men need to be indoctrinated into the “white mans clubs”

Black and brown people are second class citizens; unless of course they have the money to play with the old white men.

Money, money the root of all evil!

The seven deadly sins seem to be the cornerstone of this regime, and in regimes around the world. 🌎

Lisa Gonzalez's avatar

Thank you for this thoughtful comment. You do not need perfect grades to recognize what should be plainly visible to any person paying attention. The evidence is there — in books, documentaries, testimony, photographs, film, and the historical record itself. What is so disturbing is not the lack of proof, but the willingness to ignore it.

I also agree that there is a larger pattern here: the hoarding of power, the ranking of human worth, and the constant effort to push women, children, and people of color into more vulnerable and expendable positions. Too often, money and power function as a kind of immunity, buying access, protection, and belonging where conscience should matter more.

What frightens me most is how old these impulses are, and how easily they are dressed up in new language and repackaged for the next generation. That is part of why remembrance matters so much. If we do not teach history honestly, and if we do not resist the normalization of cruelty, then we leave the door open for those same forces to rise again under different names.

Julie's avatar

It is scary to think in my lifetime i have seen naziism rise up again. It also scary when i see younger generations so poorly educated. Education is the key yet this is being stripped away as well.

We must continue to try to raise awareness, educate where we can and try and throw wrenches at Velveeta Voldemort.

I hope for something resembling democracy in the next 5 years.

We can do this!

Claire Drouault's avatar

We have been lied to so systematically that we no longer believe anything we can’t verify for ourselves if only we had the time. Even if that was possible how well can we trust our own senses? We are drowning in propaganda, lies, clickbait and the supporting documents some kindly provide, often turn out to be someone else’s opinions supporting the author’s opinions. Personal truth and integrity have left the planet. Who can we trust when we no longer trust humanity?

Charles K Summers's avatar

In my opinion, it is also due to our moving from qualitative to quantitative education. Less art, less thinking, less analysis — all for test scores.

Bettina von Holstein-Rathlou's avatar

Thank you.

Lisa Gonzalez's avatar

Thank you for taking the time to read and leave a comment.

Virgin Monk Boy's avatar

This is exactly it. Remembrance isn’t about feeling horrified by the past, it’s about recognizing those same patterns in the present. If we only apply ‘never again’ selectively, then we’re not honoring history, we’re sanitizing it.

elliemae.padme66's avatar

It's not just blanket education. We all have seen highly educated people consumed with privilege, falling for right wing propaganda 🙄. Need truthful education 😉

Dr Christine DiBlasio's avatar

"And yet a recent poll found that 54% of male GOP voters under 50 said the Holocaust was greatly exaggerated or did not happen as historians describe."

WHAT the living F??????

I, too, have been to the Holocaust museum several times. Horrifying how people can dehumanize others in the name of righteousness, religion, or--greed.

Mandy Ohman's avatar

More like under counted/reported. They do believe in war. As a child in the 70’s I was singing this song during church -

Onward, Christian soldiers,

marching as to war,

With the cross of Jesus

going on before!

Christ, the royal Master,

leads against the foe;

Forward into battle,

see his banner go!

Refrain: Onward, Christian soldiers,

marching as to war,

With the cross of Jesus going on before!

Anyway, appreciated this one.

Mark's avatar

Mind control. People can’t think for themselves without influence. They don’t even have enough critical thinking skills to investigate from honest resources. If they were told to walk off a cliff they wouldn’t even question it.

Meg Daley Olmert WE/US's avatar

Really great bullseye on the role memory plays in the shifting moral center. We’d like to think of humans as the “moral animal,” but what you have identified is that we are just the animals with the capacity to hold memories longer through language. But the written historic record (language) proves we can only hold memories—especially painful memories—for so long. And since morality is largely fear based, It’s just a matter of time before our fancy brains tire of holding two truths at the same and dump the ones that are the most uncomfortable and inconvenient. Kurt Vonnegut said our fatal flaw is that “we are too lazy and cheap.” Even to dare to remember or burn the calories to look at what we wrote down at the time. Lazy & Cheap are the essence of immorality. Be afraid.

robotworks's avatar

You went to the holocaust museum and pulled away thoughts of our society forgetting. Good. Now go to the Atomic Museum in Hiroshima Japan. If you make it through, I couldn't, remember that the consequences of forgetting that period of history is even more devastating. And the Nuclear Codes in the hands of a brain dead narcissus with zero concept of action-consequences. Something has to happen. t

Gretchen Brehm's avatar

Thank you Lisa. I teach high school world and US history and the number of students I have that can't believe that slavery was that bad, that the Holocaust was as bad as history teachers like me make it, and the people like Helen Keller couldn't exist or do the things they did if they really had the disabilities. I am appalled by the fact that what I am teaching them is going in one ear and out the other without sticking.

Karen Scharer's avatar

Yes. There was a holocaust. Yes. Millions of innocent people were slaughtered. I know people who lived it...I've seen the tattoos... several of the victims chose to not remove them. For those that don't believe perhaps they should go to Gaza and try living as a Palestinian...being starved to death, shot to murder or for sickening sport by psychopaths who feel they are superior. On the Palestinian's own land. Donald Trump and Netanyahu are creating this modern day holocaust.. go, learn some history.